"So That What?" featuring Nicole Cherie Hesse
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⚠️ Content Note: This episode contains raw reflections on domestic violence and narcissistic abuse. Please listen with care, and pause if needed. You are not alone.
Nicole is back on the mic — and this time, we go deeper.
In this vulnerable, unfiltered conversation, Katie interviews Nicole about her new book, A Shadow Called Sunshine, and the haunting, holy question woven through it all:
“So that what?”
We talk about:
The long arc of healing after narcissistic abuse
The grief of being gaslit by someone you trusted
Writing as reclamation
And what it means to keep going ... when everything in you wants to shut down
This isn’t just a story of survival through the worst. It’s a story of sovereignty.... "so that what?"
✨ Follow Nicole and her book launch journey here: sothatwhat.org
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